I would like to hear all of YOUR thoughts about these two versions of the game and whether or not one is more legitimate than the other. Any takers?

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Comment by David Llerena on March 22, 2013 at 6:01pm

I love steel tip. I do play soft tip on a league, but Steel is the game I prefer. I hate that most soft tip players chastise me for saying that. I can have a preference. Just like you can.

Here is how I see the differences: Soft tip pros and cons:

Pros. Very easy to find boards to play on.

          New boards have internet access and you can always find somebody to play against

          Many different "Outs" to work with and learn

          Prize money is good

Cons:

          The noises/lights/graphic displays just take away from the game. (I liken it to a video game)

           The games cost too much to play.

           I personally do not like the lighter dart.

           Single in/out games just seem to cheapen the game.

 

As far as the video game comment. I understand why they make all these new graphics and displays and noises. We have entered a "gamer" era in the world. Every kid from the 90's on grew up with an X box, PS3, etc. They have been conditioned to that external stimuli. If a "game" does not have all that, then they will get bored of it quickly. It is almost like the difference between reading a book and watching a movie.

  Now, I have said all this to say, I find myself enjoying both at times, but I am far and away a steel tip guy. I can only hope that soft tip brings in new players that will also find enjoyment in steel, so as not to lose our traditional game altogether.

Comment by BIG on May 27, 2012 at 5:21am
LOL I am a steel tipper for life, soft tip darts to me cheapen the sport.
Comment by L. David Irete on May 27, 2012 at 5:01am

ps  world's #1 now playing board 1  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-world-soft-darts-world-championship

as we speak

Comment by L. David Irete on May 27, 2012 at 4:59am

Big I would enjoy talking with you about the subject ,,, let us private message our emails then phone numbers ,,

i can tell from four words you are a dart fan , nut , promoter , and the kind of person i like talking with ,,

IRETE

Comment by BIG on May 27, 2012 at 4:53am
Soft tip darts are a joke, it was started by Americans who are mad because they can't shoot with the world class shooters, so they came up with their own version, using soft tip plastic kiddie darts, " Mad because your dart popped out of the board and didn't count?" " That's ok my child we'll still let it count"
Soft tip darts are for wannabe dart players.
Comment by BIG on May 27, 2012 at 4:51am
How do I edit my misspells?
Comment by L. David Irete on May 27, 2012 at 4:48am

Thanks for jumping in so fast BIG

Comment by coby king on September 13, 2011 at 3:00pm
i love both forms of darts.i think most of our top players in the usa play both.i agree with brian the handicap and rating system with soft tip takes away from the game.its cool to go to a big steel tip tournament and get to play the pros.
Comment by Brian Jackson on September 13, 2011 at 1:18pm

As a game...they are very similar.    At the top level...equal competition.  Still takes quality shots to hit and score in either and the better players will float to the top regardless of the format.  I mean 20gm darts aren't that lite...I throw that weight in steel as well.

 

The big difference comes at the regular "league" player level and the special vendor rules trying to make things too "equal for all players".   I think the biggest deterrent/complaint I hear about soft-tip comes from the weird handicapping rules they have put into place.   From a money making operation standpoint, I see why they are there, but it hinders the game.  Top level players will advance out of those divisions and play straight up and all is fine.

 

EVERYONE should play the full game.  Just because I'm a better player doesn't mean I should be playing you 501 to 351!!  You should start at 501 as well.   I mean they have handicaps in golf, yet  everyone still plays 18 holes.   Just because you aren't as good as your competitor doesn't mean you are only playing 12 holes instead of 18.

 

Now, I've made my feelings known on the handicapping subject before.  I have no problems with a handicap system, but the way the current soft-tip vendors have implemented it is just WRONG, and many a soft-tip player will tell you the same thing.  A different approach would need to be taken in steel.  We have different skill levels in team leagues already; now we just need a method to make it formulaic so it's equally applied.

 

I'm not a big fan of the lights and beeps, but people are attracted to shiny things apparently.  Wow, I'm even half way on the quarter drop.  Holy Mother of Wotan, did I just say that?   $0.75 for a game is a bit much (I don't play video games these days because they are no longer a quarter).   I mean, bowling is a pay per game (or hour).   I could see hopping on a machine and paying $5 an hour to play as many legs as I wanted.  $0.25/game isn't that bad either: 11 legs would be $2.75, I think that's reasonable.    Hell, even if it's $0.50, you split that with your opponent...   What if bars 'rented' house darts or you fed a system to activate the lites for the dartboard? (tennis courts have this...)

 

The odd thing with is concept and steel is, "the way it's always been" mentality.   I don't think I can name 1 sport that is identical to the day it was introduced; they morph over time.   I'm not saying one was is better than the other, I mean I'm trying to change things in steel-tip darts!!  :-D  

 

If something is free, people see little value in it.  But as soon as you place a value on something (even if you give it away for free), it's now worth something and people pay attention.   I think this is where soft-tip has surpassed steel.   I mean, 2000+ new players a month in Hong Kong alone?!?!   They're doing something right.

Comment by Thorn on September 13, 2011 at 11:55am

I'll chime in...while sitting in the English Pub in Reykjivak...check it out: http://enskibarinn.is/

 

I'm a purist. Steel for me. Free, easy, and the real deal. I usually play soft tip only when I'm traveling and I can't find anything else. But I'd be more than happy to admit that they are equal, they are both darts. It's just one of those rare times in life that I don't like the "bells and whistles", or quarters. ;)

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